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Digit III or Digit 3 #458
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I can make this switch immediately. For the purposes of an audit trail can we have more info - link to a discussion, publication...? Is the convention universally adhered to in comparative anatomy? Are there contexts in which arabic numerals are preferentially used (e.g embryology)? Is it the case that arabic numerals carry more implication of homology? This is fine as we use digit numbers to carry this implication (in addition to explicit designations of homology of course), just good to document. Are there additional changes expected? I assume the convention is: roman for digits preaxial-axial, arabic for phalanges, proximal-distal? |
In developmental biology literature, at least in my experience, whenever digits are specified numerically, the convention is to use Arabic numbers. Furthermore, from a purely practical standpoint, for considerations such as ordering, searching and sorting, in general I have found Arabic numbering (e.g. 1, 2, 3; 1st, 2nd, 3rd) to be preferable to either Roman (e.g. I, II, III) or any type of word (e.g. one, two, three; first, second, third) forms. |
I agree, as far as I know there is no convention but typically we refer to the human digits using Arabic numerals both in the embryo and in the adult. Dr. John Cork, Tel. 504 568 7177 Fax. 504 568 4392 URL: http://virtualhumanembryo.lsuhsc.eduhttp://virtualhumanembryo.lsuhsc.edu/There are only 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. From: tfhayamizu [mailto:notifications@github.com] In developmental biology literature, at least in my experience, whenever digits are specified numerically, the convention is to use Arabic numbers. Furthermore, from a purely practical standpoint, for considerations such as ordering, searching and sorting, in general I have found Arabic numbering (e.g. 1, 2, 3; 1st, 2nd, 3rd) to be preferable to either Roman (e.g. I, II, III) or any type of word (e.g. one, two, three; first, second, third) forms. — |
It sounds like the thing to do here is auto-add community synonyms. I can put these in the COMPARATIVE_PREFERRED subset |
As far as I know using roman numerals to refer to the digits and arabic numerals for phalanges is fairly widespread in vertebrate anatomy, (certainly in comparative anatomy and paleontology), so for the purposes of a vertebrate anatomy ontology it would make sense to follow standard usage introduced by influential anatomists such as Romer (1956) etc. I am also attaching several screenshots of book pages, including one where arabic numerals are used (Form and Transformation: Generative and Relational Principles in Biology), but the author points out that this is contrary to convention. Here are some more examples - http://www.springerimages.com/Images/LifeSciences/1-10.1007_s13127-010-0019-x-2 This also makes discussions in comparative biology easier (using combinations such as II-3 etc): http://dml.cmnh.org/1997Oct/msg00758.html See also this discussion I found on an anatomy discussion list: "Also, Roman numerals are used for digit numbers. I see this convention has Best, Nizar Nizar Ibrahim, PhD Email: nibrahim@uchicago.edu From: JohnCork <notifications@github.commailto:notifications@github.com> I agree, as far as I know there is no convention but typically we refer to the human digits using Arabic numerals both in the embryo and in the adult. Dr. John Cork, Tel. 504 568 7177 Fax. 504 568 4392 URL: http://virtualhumanembryo.lsuhsc.eduhttp://virtualhumanembryo.lsuhsc.edu/There are only 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. From: tfhayamizu [mailto:notifications@github.com] In developmental biology literature, at least in my experience, whenever digits are specified numerically, the convention is to use Arabic numbers. Furthermore, from a purely practical standpoint, for considerations such as ordering, searching and sorting, in general I have found Arabic numbering (e.g. 1, 2, 3; 1st, 2nd, 3rd) to be preferable to either Roman (e.g. I, II, III) or any type of word (e.g. one, two, three; first, second, third) forms. — — |
* definition overhaul * multiple changes. Improved definitions from WP, made more concise. Myotome overhaul * translated comments to specific APs * Added roman numeral digit labels as preferred terms for comparative anatomists. Fixes #458 enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting
Preferred format for digit numbers should be in roman numerals (i.e. Digit III).
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